What started as a celebratory homecoming for Pooh Shiesty has turned into one of the messiest, most personal fallouts in recent hip hop history. Now, sources claim Gucci Mane has allegedly sent his top shooters to go get his “stolen back in blood” after Pooh Shiesty and his crew reportedly robbed him in his own studio, taking his watch and even his wedding ring.
From label love to life‑or‑death tension, this is how everything went off the rails – and why some people are saying this ain’t the same Gucci Mane the streets grew up fearing.
### From South Memphis Trenches to 1017 Golden Boy
Before his name was all over headlines for beef, Pooh Shiesty was the new face of Memphis drill energy. Born Lontrell Donell Williams Jr., he came up in South Memphis, in an environment where you either get money or get got. The code was simple: loyalty means everything, and disrespect can cost you your life.
Shiesty’s family wasn’t just around the streets – they were in them. His cousin Big Scarr was right there beside him, moving through the same dangerous blocks, watching the same bodies drop, dodging the same problems. They were locked in like brothers, both trying to turn street credibility into rap stardom.
Memphis is not like every other rap city. It’s raw, it’s unfiltered, and when problems start, they rarely stop at words. The culture is about respect, and in that world, your name is your most valuable currency. Pooh absorbed that energy from early on. Even as he started making a name with his gritty delivery and cold hooks, he never forgot where he came from. The streets gave him his identity, and he carried that mentality into every room he stepped into.
On the other side of the South, Gucci Mane had already cemented himself as an Atlanta legend. As the head of 1017, Gucci was known for spotting young, rough‑around‑the‑edges talent and turning them into stars. He had an eye for the streets and a proven track record: Waka Flocka Flame, Young Thug, Migos, and more had all benefited from Gucci’s co-sign and blueprint.
But Gucci also had another reputation: if you crossed him, things got dark quickly. The old Gucci Mane was known as a man who handled disrespect the hard way. That aura followed him into every deal, every contract, every artist meeting.
So when Gucci Mane and Pooh Shiesty linked up, it felt like a perfect storm. 1017 got a hungry Memphis shooter with a growing fanbase. Pooh Shiesty got a legendary co-sign, big label backing, and doors opening everywhere. His breakout single “Back In Blood” with Lil Durk became an anthem, and suddenly he wasn’t just a Memphis street rapper – he was a national name.
### The Death of Big Scarr and the First Major Crack
Things started going left when tragedy hit close to home.
Pooh Shiesty’s cousin, Big Scarr, who was also signed to Gucci’s 1017, passed away unexpectedly. For Pooh, this wasn’t just losing a labelmate. This was family. In Memphis culture, when family dies, everything stops. The community pulls together. You show up for the funeral. You show respect. Period.
That’s where the tension began.
According to Big Scarr’s family, when they reached out to Gucci Mane for help covering funeral costs, what they got back didn’t match what they expected from a multimillionaire label boss. They claim Gucci sent $10,000 “for flowers” and said he couldn’t pay for the funeral because his wife’s birthday was coming up.
For Big Scarr’s people, that wasn’t just disappointing – it was disrespect. They hit social media hard, calling Gucci out, saying he blocked their calls, saying the money he sent wasn’t close to enough, and that Big Scarr deserved way more from the man who had signed him.
“Ten thousand ain’t nothing for flowers,” one of Scarr’s family members allegedly said. “My brother was worth way more than that.”
To them, this wasn’t about a receipt – it was about principle. You sign someone to your label, they become part of your extended family. When they die, you don’t nickel‑and‑dime the funeral. You stand on business and show the world they mattered.
For Pooh Shiesty, this cut deep. That was his blood. He watched his family grieve while they felt abandoned by the label they thought was supposed to have their back. The Memphis code he was raised on was clear: when your people are hurting, you pull up – no excuses.
That whole situation left a sour taste in his mouth. And it didn’t help that around the same time, Gucci was caught in online tension with Big30 in public comment sections, throwing slick shots and carrying himself like he was untouchable.
To Pooh, it started looking like a pattern: Gucci Mane not showing proper respect to Memphis artists and their families. The money was one thing – the principle was another. It felt like 1017 was treating Memphis talent as replaceable, not as partners. That’s the type of energy that doesn’t just fade away. It builds.
### Pooh Shiesty Comes Home – But He’s Not the Same
Even with all that in the air, when Pooh Shiesty came home from his legal troubles, Gucci Mane was one of the first to publicly welcome him back. Gucci posted him, showed him love online, and made it seem like everything was solid. Fans thought 1017 was about to be lit again, with new collabs and a big comeback wave.
But behind the scenes, things were not as friendly as they looked.
During his time locked up, Pooh had a lot of quiet hours to think. And what he realized changed everything: he was already a millionaire. He had his own fanbase, his own name, his own connections. The streets loved *him*, not just the 1017 chain. Labels were lining up, his value had gone up, and he knew it.
The question he started asking himself was simple: what is Gucci really doing for me now that I can’t do for myself?
Instead of being excited to re‑sign or extend his deal, Pooh started thinking like a boss, not a soldier. Why split his percentage with a label that he felt didn’t respect him or his family? Why stay under someone who had already shown what he would or wouldn’t do when tragedy struck?
Meanwhile, the streets were talking, too. Rumors started flying that Pooh Shiesty had outgrown 1017. Other labels – especially CMG under Yo Gotti – were allegedly hovering in the background, interested in making moves with a Memphis star who understood their city the way they did.
Pooh was also hearing that Gucci had been talking slick behind the scenes about Memphis artists, allegedly implying they should just be grateful to be on 1017. For a man who prided himself on coming from the trenches and earning every dollar, that arrogance didn’t sit well.
What started as quiet disappointment turned into a full shift. Pooh Shiesty went from being a loyal soldier under the 1017 banner to someone questioning everything. He wanted to move independently, call his own shots, and cut out what he saw as unnecessary middlemen.
And Gucci Mane could feel it.
### The Studio Meeting That Went All the Way Left
Eventually, all the side conversations and silent resentment led to a face‑to‑face.
According to sources, Pooh Shiesty and Gucci Mane agreed to meet in the studio to talk business. This wasn’t supposed to be a street meetup. This was supposed to be a sit‑down about contracts, deals, and the future of their working relationship.
But that’s not how it ended.
People close to the situation say Gucci came into the meeting trying to keep Pooh on the team – offering better terms, more money, maybe even more creative control. On paper, it should have been a win‑win: Gucci keeps his star, Pooh gets more leverage.
Pooh wasn’t buying it.
His mind was already made up. He wanted independence. He wanted full percentage. He wanted out. And he wasn’t bending, no matter what was on the table.
That’s when the conversation reportedly shifted from money to loyalty.
Gucci reminded Pooh that he had put him on, boosted his career, given him a platform. In Gucci’s mind, there should’ve been some loyalty for that. But Pooh came right back, bringing up Big Scarr, the funeral drama, and what his family went through.
To him, loyalty had already been broken.
From there, things went from tense to explosive.
Sources claim Pooh told Gucci to his face that he wasn’t the same person he used to be – that he’d gone soft, that he’d lost touch with the culture that built him. In a room full of men with egos, reputations and histories, those kinds of words don’t just float away.
Gucci’s security was in the room, but Pooh didn’t come alone either. His crew was deep, and the energy shifted from talk to action.
Before anyone could fully deescalate, things reportedly turned physical. Pooh Shiesty and his team are alleged to have robbed Gucci Mane right there in the studio – taking his expensive watch and, even more personal, his wedding ring.
That one detail hit harder than the headlines.
Taking a man’s wedding ring isn’t just a flex. It’s a statement. The ring represents his wife, his commitment, his home. When you snatch that off someone, you’re saying you can touch not just him, but everything he stands for. In the street world, that’s a new level of disrespect.
Gucci’s security, outnumbered and caught off guard, didn’t stop the robbery. In a tight space, surrounded, sometimes the only thing you can do is make sure everybody leaves alive.
Sources say Pooh never denied what happened privately. His alleged explanation was cold: Gucci had it coming. From his point of view, Gucci disrespected his family first, and this was repayment, delivered in the only language he believed Gucci would really feel.
### “This Ain’t the Old Gucci” – The Streets Start Talking
Once word got out that Gucci Mane had been robbed by his own artist in his own studio, the story spread fast. Social media started buzzing, group chats lit up, and the hip hop community started asking the same question:
What is Gucci Mane going to do about this?
See, this isn’t 2009 Gucci. The man today is older, married, more polished, building a business empire. The “Clone Gucci” jokes, the healthier lifestyle, the more positive music – all that added up to a narrative that he’d matured, evolved, left some of his old demons in the past.
But in the streets, evolution can look like weakness.
Fans immediately began saying this wasn’t the same Gucci Mane they knew from the old days – the one who would allegedly slide on someone the same night if you disrespected him. The old Gucci, they said, wouldn’t have let a robbery like this slide. He would’ve handled it fast, harsh, and permanently.
This time, though, Gucci didn’t respond publicly. There was no all‑caps Instagram rant, no quick diss record, no loud threats online.
According to people close to him, that didn’t mean he was letting it go. Sources claim Gucci quietly put word out to his top shooters to “handle” the situation – but to do it the right way. Clean. No sloppy moves, no heat that could blow back on his name or his legit businesses.
Those same sources say Gucci was less angry about the items stolen and more furious about the disrespect. Getting robbed is one thing. Getting robbed by someone you helped create, in your own spot, in front of your own people, is a whole different level.
The wedding ring made it personal. It brought his wife, his home life, into street business. That’s a line a lot of people feel should never be crossed.
Gucci allegedly told people close to him that Pooh had made this personal, and now it had to be handled personally.
Meanwhile, the online conversation split. Some fans were riding with Pooh Shiesty, saying he stood up for his family, that Gucci should’ve done more for Big Scarr and his people. Others were saying Pooh had just made the biggest mistake of his life by robbing someone with Gucci’s history, resources, and connections.
Because in the streets, there’s still a code: you don’t publicly violate the man who helped you eat and expect nothing to come back your way.
### No Easy Way Out – And No Going Back
What makes this situation so messy is that both sides have reasons to feel wronged.
Pooh Shiesty’s family was genuinely hurt by how Big Scarr’s funeral was handled. From their perspective, they got shortchanged and disrespected at the worst possible time. Pooh saw that, internalized it, and came home from prison with a chip on his shoulder and a new understanding of how the music business works.
Gucci Mane, on the other hand, feels like he put Pooh in position, gave him one of the biggest looks of his life, and then got robbed and humiliated by the same man he helped feed. From his side, that’s treason.
This isn’t the kind of situation that gets patched with a phone call or a PR statement. At this point, according to people in their circles, Pooh doesn’t want reconciliation. He wants separation. He wants out from everything connected to Gucci and 1017. And Gucci, while publicly calm, is reportedly not letting this go lightly.
Could lawyers get involved? Possibly. Could there be behind‑the‑scenes buyouts, contract terminations, or quiet settlements? Maybe. But the harsh reality is that when respect, ego, and old street codes mix with millions of dollars and the internet, “talk it out” is usually the last option people choose.
Industry insiders are allegedly trying to step in and calm things down. They know both artists have families, kids, legacies, and major money tied to their names. Another high‑profile hip hop tragedy is the last thing anyone wants to see.
But the streets don’t move on industry time.
Right now, fans are watching everything — every post, every move, every absence. If something happens to Pooh Shiesty, the internet is going to immediately connect the dots back to this studio incident. If Gucci Mane doesn’t respond at all, some people will say his era as a feared figure in the streets is officially over.
That’s the dangerous corner they’re both backed into.
### The Dangerous New Reality
This situation is bigger than just Gucci Mane and Pooh Shiesty. It’s a reminder that even in 2026, the old rules of the streets still apply — especially when it comes to respect.
You can be rich, reformed, and running a label, but if your artists feel disrespected, they will act like they’re still in the trenches. You can be a chart‑topping star with millions of followers, but if you violate someone who helped build you, there’s going to be a price.
Gucci Mane tried to evolve, but his name is still tied to a past where problems got solved violently. Pooh Shiesty tried to transition from the streets to the charts, but he still thinks in terms of getting payback “in blood.”
Now, according to sources, Gucci has allegedly sent his goons to get his stolen back, and Pooh Shiesty is moving carefully, fully aware that this is no longer just a contract dispute. This is a situation that could define both of their legacies forever.
Whether this ends in a quiet settlement, a legal battle, a private sit‑down, or something far worse, one thing is clear: there’s no going back to how it was.
The studio robbery, the missing wedding ring, the funeral accusations – all of that has pushed this beef into a place where it’s not just about music anymore. It’s about pride, image, history, and survival.
And when those things collide in hip hop, anything can happen.